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T O P I C R E V I E Wathenaia-RandallBump!todd quote:Originally posted by athenaia:I've read around interpersonal and found your interpretations positively fascinating. I have pretty good intuition but there's one person that I'm unable to accurately suss out in my life, so I'm curious, what do you read between the lines in this chart? Thank you! hi athenaiai'll tell you , this is a difficult chart for me also.i assume this is not a ongoing relationship or not? or it is just a friend that keeps involving you?I think the "sticking factor" is the vertex conjunct the ascendant . this aspect in a composite gives an intuition connection, but as the vertex is undifferentiated energy,the reasons the personalities are connected can be confusing. maybe like you are have nothing at all in common, yet synchronistic meetings or conversations keep connecting you.the mars/psyche and mars/mercury midpoint is square to the vertex and the ascendant so there is slight romantic feeling on a off handed manner.the sun/Venus midpoint is square to the nodal axis so there is a emotional attraction between you and with eros sextile to the south node there is slight pleasing romantic ambience also, but with the north node conjunct to Neptune and in the 12th house , the relationship is likely to be "hidden".it can mean that there are other people or relationships that area greater priority for him.the moon is square to chiron which marks you as intelligent if critical person, so it seems you don't quite accept or trust the emotional attraction of the venus/sun midpoint.as Venus is square to Neptune , there can be a hidden sensuality between you, but this aspect is often found in relationships that are based on socializing and sometimes it shows other people are being seen.(if this is a serious relationship).with mercury conjunct to psyche there is a subtle romantic feeling and there is a very sensitive and understanding mental connection. but at the same time with mercury sextile to chiron,you both have incisive and intelligent minds so your conversation aren't mushy but quite mentally invigorating.there are some harder aspects that aren't associated with a romantic involvement such as Saturn square to pluto which is opposed to eros.this is a aspect of selfishness and distance. with pluto opposed to eros ,what ever emotional sensitive that may exist is often negated by coldness and distancethe moon is square to Uranus and opposed to nessus, which implies you don't really feel an attachment to him and in fact you might have distinct reservation about the dark and cold attitude he can display.the sun is opposed to the pluto/Jupiter midpoint which can show there is a professional element to the relationship. it could be you have common profession or workplace. but in terms or relationships it shows that professional/educational advancement is the overriding factor in this chart. any type of personal relationship is subservient to blind ambition so to speak.toddathenaia-OrangeTodd is really one in a kind in assessing Composites. Pretty cool and impressive.Todd, I noticed a definite pattern in your readings. You always start with the good stuff and then comes the dreaded BUT...VirgoPILL quote:Originally posted by Orange:Todd is really one in a kind in assessing Composites. Pretty cool and impressive.Todd, I noticed a definite pattern in your readings. You always start with the good stuff and then comes the dreaded BUT...I agree with you Orange. I love reading todd's posts always todd, thanks for your posts, you're awesome.Ceridwen quote:Originally posted by Orange:You always start with the good stuff and then comes the dreaded BUT...Pretty good hookline. After you`ve nodded to the good stuff, you have to accept the bad stuff as well. (of course in most cases there is good AND bad stuff) todd quote:Originally posted by athenaia:Wow, Todd. To say I'm impressed is an extreme understatement. Let me comb through everything you said to paint a picture for myself.. But first! Background would probably help I'm sure. I was never romantically involved with this person - he's someone that's been in and out of my life periodically for 10 years through no fault of his own, we both just live different lives. You say Exactly.. educational advancement seems to be the theme for both of us. Todd, you're a master. Thank you so much for this, I feel very freed after reading what you've written. May I ask for your interpretation on the NN/Neptune conjunction in the composite? athenaiathank you so much for the detailed feedback, I owe much of my knowledge to students like youself who give me a better understanding of what my words really mean.orangeyea every coin has two sides...but I take the position that a poster wants the full picture(though I am really bad at not be able to know when the poster just needs some uplifting feedback).as I've mentioned before I am not a humanistic astrologer even though I read everything dane rudhyar wrote when I first started studying astrology. this means that I don't just emphasize the good and ignore the difficult. life is give and take.thanks VirgoPILLyea ceridwen I always start with the positive as I don't want the poster to delete me in the middle toddtodd quote:Originally posted by athenaia:Wow, Todd. To say I'm impressed is an extreme understatement. Let me comb through everything you said to paint a picture for myself.. But first! Background would probably help I'm sure. I was never romantically involved with this person - he's someone that's been in and out of my life periodically for 10 years through no fault of his own, we both just live different lives. You say Exactly.. educational advancement seems to be the theme for both of us. Todd, you're a master. Thank you so much for this, I feel very freed after reading what you've written. May I ask for your interpretation on the NN/Neptune conjunction in the composite? singularly the node /Neptune conjunction in the 12th can give common visions and aspiration. this aspect gives a psychic connection but the 12th house usually gives a ominous tone to these feelings.so much depends on the personality structure of the individual's involved. a materialistic personality would be stimulate to bombast and disingenuous statements' . a creative or spiritual personality would sense the ethereal ties between them andcould give common dreams,/visions about each other and other synchronistic feelings.though the individuals need not be in a physical relationship to experience these planes.toddCeridwen quote:Originally posted by todd: yea ceridwen I always start with the positive as I don't want the poster to delete me in the middle todd athenaia-athenaia-toddHi athenaiaThe first thing that strikes me is the vertex conjunct the descendant and square to eros. It is interesting as you mentioned that both these composite have this aspect seems you’re a karma baby.The vertex/axis/asce/axis gives innate intuition connection. It can be overtly psychic but often the it is just similar synchronistic experirences. But here with eros, the similarities are much more distinct as they involved emotional attachment or interest. This gives a romantic ambience form the beginning.With venus conjunct the sun ,there is not doubt that there is a strong physical and emotional attraction between you.+with ceres added to this conjunction there is a serious feeling about a possible committed relationship . with the Saturn/Neptune conjunction trine to this stellium. There is a emotional stability and a spiritual sensitivity between you. With pluto trine to Saturn/Neptune and opposed to the sun/venus/ceres stellium, the relationship is extremely supportive and has an underlying healing affect for both of you.As the moon is sextile to the stelliu8m and Saturn/neptune and trine to pluto, yopu have have a have coined a pyramid pattern as the opposition and sextile trines are ˝ a grand sextile. A grand sextile is a 2 dimensional representation of a 3 dimensional octahedron. A pyramid is a octahedron bisected which gives a 4 sided pyramid.So this pattern is extremely favorable . it shows a devoted, deeply sensitive ,nourishing and heal love between you. This pattern gives a aura of sensitivity and love that actually is felt by friends and those around you .The moon/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct to mercury which shows you both communicate about the social issues around you and you have informative conversations. This also shows that a serious relationship may have already been broached.Jupiter is trine to juno whi8ch bodes well for a serious relationship and the moon/sun midpoint is conjunct to the Jupiter juno midpoint. This shows the relationship from the beginning has had committed overtones. But these midpoints are square to the Saturn/Neptune conjunction which implies that he is not as sure of the commitment to love as you are and inn fact he may be shy about acknowledging the deep connection.Juno is conjunct o psyche giving a romantic feeling and impulses for commitment, and these are square to venus.sun.ceres showing again that the love brings out committed feelings. But with pluto opposed to the sun and moon, there may be issues from previous relationships that hinder the free expression of love.The pluto/Saturn and pluto/Neptune midpoints are square to the moon, so again, there a unconscious dynamics in the relationship. This implies that though there is a strong love there is also a emotional concealment hesitancy to express love.All and all, a difficult call. such divine love, yet unconscious hesitation.todd
quote:Originally posted by athenaia:I've read around interpersonal and found your interpretations positively fascinating. I have pretty good intuition but there's one person that I'm unable to accurately suss out in my life, so I'm curious, what do you read between the lines in this chart? Thank you!
Thank you!
i'll tell you , this is a difficult chart for me also.i assume this is not a ongoing relationship or not? or it is just a friend that keeps involving you?
I think the "sticking factor" is the vertex conjunct the ascendant . this aspect in a composite gives an intuition connection, but as the vertex is undifferentiated energy,the reasons the personalities are connected can be confusing. maybe like you are have nothing at all in common, yet synchronistic meetings or conversations keep connecting you.the mars/psyche and mars/mercury midpoint is square to the vertex and the ascendant so there is slight romantic feeling on a off handed manner.the sun/Venus midpoint is square to the nodal axis so there is a emotional attraction between you and with eros sextile to the south node there is slight pleasing romantic ambience also, but with the north node conjunct to Neptune and in the 12th house , the relationship is likely to be "hidden".it can mean that there are other people or relationships that area greater priority for him.the moon is square to chiron which marks you as intelligent if critical person, so it seems you don't quite accept or trust the emotional attraction of the venus/sun midpoint.as Venus is square to Neptune , there can be a hidden sensuality between you, but this aspect is often found in relationships that are based on socializing and sometimes it shows other people are being seen.(if this is a serious relationship).
with mercury conjunct to psyche there is a subtle romantic feeling and there is a very sensitive and understanding mental connection. but at the same time with mercury sextile to chiron,you both have incisive and intelligent minds so your conversation aren't mushy but quite mentally invigorating.
there are some harder aspects that aren't associated with a romantic involvement such as Saturn square to pluto which is opposed to eros.this is a aspect of selfishness and distance. with pluto opposed to eros ,what ever emotional sensitive that may exist is often negated by coldness and distance
the moon is square to Uranus and opposed to nessus, which implies you don't really feel an attachment to him and in fact you might have distinct reservation about the dark and cold attitude he can display.the sun is opposed to the pluto/Jupiter midpoint which can show there is a professional element to the relationship. it could be you have common profession or workplace. but in terms or relationships it shows that professional/educational advancement is the overriding factor in this chart. any type of personal relationship is subservient to blind ambition so to speak.
todd
Todd, I noticed a definite pattern in your readings. You always start with the good stuff and then comes the dreaded BUT...
quote:Originally posted by Orange:Todd is really one in a kind in assessing Composites. Pretty cool and impressive.Todd, I noticed a definite pattern in your readings. You always start with the good stuff and then comes the dreaded BUT...
I agree with you Orange. I love reading todd's posts always
todd, thanks for your posts, you're awesome.
quote:Originally posted by Orange:You always start with the good stuff and then comes the dreaded BUT...
Pretty good hookline. After you`ve nodded to the good stuff, you have to accept the bad stuff as well.
(of course in most cases there is good AND bad stuff)
quote:Originally posted by athenaia:Wow, Todd. To say I'm impressed is an extreme understatement. Let me comb through everything you said to paint a picture for myself.. But first! Background would probably help I'm sure. I was never romantically involved with this person - he's someone that's been in and out of my life periodically for 10 years through no fault of his own, we both just live different lives. You say Exactly.. educational advancement seems to be the theme for both of us. Todd, you're a master. Thank you so much for this, I feel very freed after reading what you've written. May I ask for your interpretation on the NN/Neptune conjunction in the composite?
But first! Background would probably help I'm sure. I was never romantically involved with this person - he's someone that's been in and out of my life periodically for 10 years through no fault of his own, we both just live different lives.
You say Exactly.. educational advancement seems to be the theme for both of us.
Todd, you're a master. Thank you so much for this, I feel very freed after reading what you've written.
May I ask for your interpretation on the NN/Neptune conjunction in the composite?
orangeyea every coin has two sides...but I take the position that a poster wants the full picture(though I am really bad at not be able to know when the poster just needs some uplifting feedback).as I've mentioned before I am not a humanistic astrologer even though I read everything dane rudhyar wrote when I first started studying astrology. this means that I don't just emphasize the good and ignore the difficult. life is give and take.
thanks VirgoPILL
yea ceridwen I always start with the positive as I don't want the poster to delete me in the middle todd
quote:Originally posted by todd: yea ceridwen I always start with the positive as I don't want the poster to delete me in the middle todd
The first thing that strikes me is the vertex conjunct the descendant and square to eros. It is interesting as you mentioned that both these composite have this aspect seems you’re a karma baby.The vertex/axis/asce/axis gives innate intuition connection. It can be overtly psychic but often the it is just similar synchronistic experirences. But here with eros, the similarities are much more distinct as they involved emotional attachment or interest. This gives a romantic ambience form the beginning.With venus conjunct the sun ,there is not doubt that there is a strong physical and emotional attraction between you.+with ceres added to this conjunction there is a serious feeling about a possible committed relationship . with the Saturn/Neptune conjunction trine to this stellium. There is a emotional stability and a spiritual sensitivity between you. With pluto trine to Saturn/Neptune and opposed to the sun/venus/ceres stellium, the relationship is extremely supportive and has an underlying healing affect for both of you.As the moon is sextile to the stelliu8m and Saturn/neptune and trine to pluto, yopu have have a have coined a pyramid pattern as the opposition and sextile trines are ˝ a grand sextile. A grand sextile is a 2 dimensional representation of a 3 dimensional octahedron. A pyramid is a octahedron bisected which gives a 4 sided pyramid.So this pattern is extremely favorable . it shows a devoted, deeply sensitive ,nourishing and heal love between you. This pattern gives a aura of sensitivity and love that actually is felt by friends and those around you .The moon/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct to mercury which shows you both communicate about the social issues around you and you have informative conversations. This also shows that a serious relationship may have already been broached.Jupiter is trine to juno whi8ch bodes well for a serious relationship and the moon/sun midpoint is conjunct to the Jupiter juno midpoint. This shows the relationship from the beginning has had committed overtones. But these midpoints are square to the Saturn/Neptune conjunction which implies that he is not as sure of the commitment to love as you are and inn fact he may be shy about acknowledging the deep connection.Juno is conjunct o psyche giving a romantic feeling and impulses for commitment, and these are square to venus.sun.ceres showing again that the love brings out committed feelings. But with pluto opposed to the sun and moon, there may be issues from previous relationships that hinder the free expression of love.The pluto/Saturn and pluto/Neptune midpoints are square to the moon, so again, there a unconscious dynamics in the relationship. This implies that though there is a strong love there is also a emotional concealment hesitancy to express love.
All and all, a difficult call. such divine love, yet unconscious hesitation.
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